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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://ukulelereview.com/2008/04/21/temper-hum-usb-hygrometer-and-thermometer/comment-page-1/#comment-14423</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 15:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What can hurt the musical instruments is not only low humidity but also the sudden change of humidity.

Thanks for the information about USB hydrometer!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can hurt the musical instruments is not only low humidity but also the sudden change of humidity.</p>
<p>Thanks for the information about USB hydrometer!!!</p>
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		<title>By: jobomaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>jobomaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have need of humidity readings and recently bought 6 identical springfield digital thermometer/hygrometers for $6.47 each from walmart, mostly to test veriability and accuracy of inexpensive hygrometers. The veriability turned to be only 10% from highest to lowest, which led me t the question of which one was closest to correct , without having to go to some science lab or buy a really expensive hygrometer?  While searching for even cheaper hygrometers ( I want to give them away to my customers) I found a $3.99 hygrometer calibration kit at a cigar store called cheaphumidors.com that is a bag containing some material that creates a 75.5% RH and is reusable. At that price I decided to give it try - soon I should be able to calibrate all my 11 different hygrometers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have need of humidity readings and recently bought 6 identical springfield digital thermometer/hygrometers for $6.47 each from walmart, mostly to test veriability and accuracy of inexpensive hygrometers. The veriability turned to be only 10% from highest to lowest, which led me t the question of which one was closest to correct , without having to go to some science lab or buy a really expensive hygrometer?  While searching for even cheaper hygrometers ( I want to give them away to my customers) I found a $3.99 hygrometer calibration kit at a cigar store called cheaphumidors.com that is a bag containing some material that creates a 75.5% RH and is reusable. At that price I decided to give it try &#8211; soon I should be able to calibrate all my 11 different hygrometers</p>
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		<title>By: Doctroid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctroid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually salt should give more like 75% RH, but if it&#039;s correct at 75% will it be correct at 45%? The answer is no, as I&#039;ve found by checking three hygrometers: with salt water they read 75%, 78%, 85%, and in room humidity they read 43%, 29%, 32% -- the two that were higher in the salt water test were (much) lower at room humidity. It turns out you can do a 2-point calibration using a different substance to give a controlled 33% RH. I might try that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually salt should give more like 75% RH, but if it&#8217;s correct at 75% will it be correct at 45%? The answer is no, as I&#8217;ve found by checking three hygrometers: with salt water they read 75%, 78%, 85%, and in room humidity they read 43%, 29%, 32% &#8212; the two that were higher in the salt water test were (much) lower at room humidity. It turns out you can do a 2-point calibration using a different substance to give a controlled 33% RH. I might try that.</p>
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		<title>By: ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went out to my local cigar shop and got their run-of-the-mill digital hygrometer for about 15$.  No calibration needed (unlike the analog ones) and worked right out of the box.  I tested it by placing it on a dry stand in a tupperware box that had a water/salt mix in the bottom.  Close the lid and let it sit for a few hours, then check the reading and it should be about 70%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went out to my local cigar shop and got their run-of-the-mill digital hygrometer for about 15$.  No calibration needed (unlike the analog ones) and worked right out of the box.  I tested it by placing it on a dry stand in a tupperware box that had a water/salt mix in the bottom.  Close the lid and let it sit for a few hours, then check the reading and it should be about 70%.</p>
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		<title>By: wood butcher</title>
		<link>http://ukulelereview.com/2008/04/21/temper-hum-usb-hygrometer-and-thermometer/comment-page-1/#comment-1215</link>
		<dc:creator>wood butcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No I don&#039;t think its the same model,if you search google for: Oregon Scientific USB Indoor Outdoor Thermo Hygrometer you&#039;ll find the one I&#039;m referring to.

Can you plug your Oregon Scientific into your USB?

I think it would be handy to have a device that logs the temp and humidity throughout the day.  As its the average humidity that will effect any wood, not just what the hygrometer says when you happen to check it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I don&#8217;t think its the same model,if you search google for: Oregon Scientific USB Indoor Outdoor Thermo Hygrometer you&#8217;ll find the one I&#8217;m referring to.</p>
<p>Can you plug your Oregon Scientific into your USB?</p>
<p>I think it would be handy to have a device that logs the temp and humidity throughout the day.  As its the average humidity that will effect any wood, not just what the hygrometer says when you happen to check it.</p>
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		<title>By: wood butcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>wood butcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the one in your picture is the same one as I have found here;

http://www.oregonscientific.co.uk/prod_weather_station_with_usb_upload.htm


and other places too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the one in your picture is the same one as I have found here;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.oregonscientific.co.uk/prod_weather_station_with_usb_upload.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.oregonscientific.co.uk/prod_weather_station_with_usb_upload.htm</a></p>
<p>and other places too.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wood butcher:

Do you mean the same one that I show above in the last picture?
I use this in my office, but haven&#039;t reviewed it. I&#039;ve noticed that all the hygrometers that I own show different results - which is frustrating because it&#039;s hard to know which one to trust (if any).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wood butcher:</p>
<p>Do you mean the same one that I show above in the last picture?<br />
I use this in my office, but haven&#8217;t reviewed it. I&#8217;ve noticed that all the hygrometers that I own show different results &#8211; which is frustrating because it&#8217;s hard to know which one to trust (if any).</p>
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		<title>By: wood butcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>wood butcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you tried the Oregon Scientific USB Indoor Outdoor Thermo Hygrometer?
I would be greatful if you could review it for me.
ps I&#039;m a wood floor installer I don&#039;t murder ukuleles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried the Oregon Scientific USB Indoor Outdoor Thermo Hygrometer?<br />
I would be greatful if you could review it for me.<br />
ps I&#8217;m a wood floor installer I don&#8217;t murder ukuleles.</p>
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		<title>By: ChefJeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChefJeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 12:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again, Julie,

Too bad about the TEMPer Hum and thanks for keeping me from buying one. Clearly, that&#039;s WAY off but I think your experience with your other instruments is pretty typical. I&#039;ve found that thermometers are usually pretty close but hygrometers vary widely. My experience has been like Georges, a 10% 0r 15% variation is pretty typical, sometimes more. A couple of years ago I bought three hygrometers for my ukulele cases, ones that are intended for cigars. All three read ~20% low. Before I retired I took one of my &quot;good&quot; hygrometers, a Honeywell, to work and had our aerospace gage lab calibrate it. They couldn&#039;t actually adjust it but they did tell me it&#039;s off by 5% at 50% RH. Assuming it has stayed constant over time (maybe not a good assumption), I can at least factor in that 5% and know what the actual RH is in my &quot;ukulele&quot; (nee dining room) room.  

However, I think there are two things going one here. One is that it&#039;s a Good Thing to keep the RH where your ukes live reasonably constant. It&#039;s not so much the RH itself but wide swings that will crack the wood. That said, the other factor is how different your mean RH is than the place where the ukulele was glued up. If George is right and your Koa Pili was built built in a humidity controlled factory in China it shouldn&#039;t have cracked (unless the wood wasn&#039;t properly dried in the first place). Like you though, I had one nice ukulele (a Mele concert pineapple) crack even though I ALWAYS kept it humidified. And when I posted about it I heard from others who had the same experience with Meles. My conclusion was that the environment Meles are built in is just too humid and therefore too different from my home in the Northeast during heating season. 

Glad you had a happy ending.

PS - I&#039;m enjoying your Boat Paddle series and looking forward to Jerry starting my BP concert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again, Julie,</p>
<p>Too bad about the TEMPer Hum and thanks for keeping me from buying one. Clearly, that&#8217;s WAY off but I think your experience with your other instruments is pretty typical. I&#8217;ve found that thermometers are usually pretty close but hygrometers vary widely. My experience has been like Georges, a 10% 0r 15% variation is pretty typical, sometimes more. A couple of years ago I bought three hygrometers for my ukulele cases, ones that are intended for cigars. All three read ~20% low. Before I retired I took one of my &#8220;good&#8221; hygrometers, a Honeywell, to work and had our aerospace gage lab calibrate it. They couldn&#8217;t actually adjust it but they did tell me it&#8217;s off by 5% at 50% RH. Assuming it has stayed constant over time (maybe not a good assumption), I can at least factor in that 5% and know what the actual RH is in my &#8220;ukulele&#8221; (nee dining room) room.  </p>
<p>However, I think there are two things going one here. One is that it&#8217;s a Good Thing to keep the RH where your ukes live reasonably constant. It&#8217;s not so much the RH itself but wide swings that will crack the wood. That said, the other factor is how different your mean RH is than the place where the ukulele was glued up. If George is right and your Koa Pili was built built in a humidity controlled factory in China it shouldn&#8217;t have cracked (unless the wood wasn&#8217;t properly dried in the first place). Like you though, I had one nice ukulele (a Mele concert pineapple) crack even though I ALWAYS kept it humidified. And when I posted about it I heard from others who had the same experience with Meles. My conclusion was that the environment Meles are built in is just too humid and therefore too different from my home in the Northeast during heating season. </p>
<p>Glad you had a happy ending.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; I&#8217;m enjoying your Boat Paddle series and looking forward to Jerry starting my BP concert.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a happy ending though... MusicGuyMic allowed me to ship him the cracked uke and he sent me a brand new one in its place. They have a 1yr warranty. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a happy ending though&#8230; MusicGuyMic allowed me to ship him the cracked uke and he sent me a brand new one in its place. They have a 1yr warranty. <img src='http://ukulelereview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Didgeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Didgeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear it cracked; that can be heart breaking.</description>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m thinking that the crack in the uke was due to a weak place in the wood, and not humidity...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thinking that the crack in the uke was due to a weak place in the wood, and not humidity&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GX9901</title>
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		<dc:creator>GX9901</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised that the Koa Pili Koko cracked.  It was supposedly built in a humidity controlled factory in China.  

Anyway, for humidity reading, most of my cases have a cheap &quot;Springfield&quot; thermometer/hygrometer I bought at Wal-Mart for like $7 each.  The humidity reading between them seem to vary by about 10-15%.  I also have a couple of thermo/hygrometers specifically made for instruments and a couple that comes with the Ameritage case.  All of these return different humidity measurements, but they are more or less within 10-15% of each other, so I get a general idea of the humidity in my cases.  I don&#039;t think the instrument-specific hygrometers are any more accurate than the cheapos.  

I think the best you can hope for is to get a rough idea of the humidity and put plenty of humidifiers in the cases during the winter.  Hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised that the Koa Pili Koko cracked.  It was supposedly built in a humidity controlled factory in China.  </p>
<p>Anyway, for humidity reading, most of my cases have a cheap &#8220;Springfield&#8221; thermometer/hygrometer I bought at Wal-Mart for like $7 each.  The humidity reading between them seem to vary by about 10-15%.  I also have a couple of thermo/hygrometers specifically made for instruments and a couple that comes with the Ameritage case.  All of these return different humidity measurements, but they are more or less within 10-15% of each other, so I get a general idea of the humidity in my cases.  I don&#8217;t think the instrument-specific hygrometers are any more accurate than the cheapos.  </p>
<p>I think the best you can hope for is to get a rough idea of the humidity and put plenty of humidifiers in the cases during the winter.  Hope that helps.</p>
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